Dialogues

Paul and David

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The first person in the series is Paul VanDeCarr, project director. Paul is a liberal, middle-class New Yorker who has worked on helping to end mass incarceration. He spoke with David, a gun-rights advocate from Pennsylvania. Listen to the dialogue.

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David and Cecilia

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David, a gun-rights advocate and self-described “basic straight guy,” spoke with Cecilia, a transgender woman originally from Argentina and now living in Queens, New York.

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Cecilia and ??

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In the previous episode, David, a “basic straight guy” from Pennsylvania, spoke with Cecilia, a transgender woman living in Queens. Cecilia has asked to speak with a deeply religious person, and that podcast will appear here when it’s complete.

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